As we grow and mature in our personal experience of worship ministry, are we helping to grow others into the same?

1. How do you mentor others in your team?
2. What are some practical examples of how you mentored, successfully?
3. What have you experienced to be do's and don'ts?

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A great topic, John, and one that's dear to my heart. At my stage in life (early 50's), I see God directing me to be more involved in training others than in doing the actual leading myself. I still lead, but I'm making a conscious effort to train others as well.

1. I mentor others by putting them on the front line. For example, I'm leading two worship sets this coming weekend for a conference at our church, yet in each set I have different members of my back-up vocal team leading a song or two. During practice as we go through the list, I'll get a sense of which song will suit a particular person and just say, "Okay, Sue (or Bob) why don't you lead this song on Sunday..." Even if they're hesitant, the group peer pressure usually wins out! And I've seen such growth in them over the year as a result.

2. I also mentor by words of encouragement. Years ago I was attending a small church, and the worship team's guitar player was asked to lead a song one Sunday. He did a shaky job, but you could really feel the presence of God in him. So afterward I went up and told him that I felt he had a gifting in the area of worship leading and that he should pursue it.

We moved on from that church for various reasons, but a couple of years later I ran into him at a worship conference in another province, and he was a worship leader at a new church. He told me that my words to him gave him the confidence to pursue something that he'd secretly been wanting to do, but lacked the courage.

3. Don't want to sound cruel, but only work with those God gives you. Don't waste time on the ones who won't commit; they have not been "given" to you by God, at least not yet. Be gentle, but move on and work with the ones who want to run with it.

On the positive side, when you find a "keeper", give them everything you've got, including free or assisted tickets to worship conferences, music or singing lessons, personal time...whatever you can.

Those are a few thoughts for now!
Thanks Rick
Your comment "3. Don't want to sound cruel, but only work with those God gives you. Don't waste time on the ones who won't commit; they have not been "given" to you by God, at least not yet. Be gentle, but move on and work with the ones who want to run with it"
I agree that we have less available time to pour ourselves into others, and the non-committed volunteers seem to take much of that time and energy.
Interesting concept "those whom G_d has given us"...do any scriptures come to mind to support it?
Not that I don't not agree, I do....a biblical basis would make implementing this concept an easier task.
It is easy to lay down more rules to attempt to enforce commitment levels to improve. I have not had much success with that in the past. I would take a "world view", work place prospective..(would you show up at your job late? etc). In time, frustration would lead to more tyrannical tendencies which would only force them to leave.
There must be a better way to work with these issues that can reach them at a heart level where the Spirit can minister in them.
With the younger believers, spiritual maturity may not be at a level sufficient to see these to fruition.
This is where the need for grace to be administered comes into play, and where I need input on how to admonish, teach and mentor them.
I have mostly approached other musicians from a "nuts and bolts" perspective which has had many pitfalls in the past.
I am now being put back into "play" from a 2 year sabbatical, and my desire is to learn effective mentoring skills that will produce good fruit in these boys.
I have played professionally for 30 years, and acquired a good skill set in my craft. I don't like to try to reinvent the wheel, as so to speak, but learn from the mistakes of others.
Always good to read your views Rick.
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Jesus tells us that no one comes to him except the Father draw, him. He also prayed before he suffered about those who his Father had given him, stating that he had kept those, except the one who was to betrary him.

Don't cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them. Jesus warned us against people who run after us for what we can provide, but ultimately they take the best we have, the most precious gifts we can give, and trample them, because ultimately they have a heart and mind that is after something other than Jesus. What did Paul say about those who, "....loves to be frst....has forsaken me for this world.....etc" He knew the pain of the betrayal of those that trampled his pearls.

There are people who are saved, filled with the spirit, attend church, sing the same songs, listen and say Amen to the say words but inwardly never make the journey for one reason or the other. True, we cannot know ahead of time with certainty who these people are, nor can we determine with certainty at what point we can no longer give them our best, nor can we determine if some small act or word on our part will be the final straw that causes a major breakthrough in their lives. Yet our Lord himself warned us to be careful.

I have alway maintained a policy of giving out all that I had to my teams. Any piece of advice, any revelation from God, anything I could to help them mature. There were some - a majority in fact, that took those things and did infact grow and mature into higher levels of understanding and maturity. But, there were others with great annointings and giftings that eventually walked away. Ultimately they and I lost, and the fulness God wanted was hindered. Still each of us has to make our own decisions and be accountible to the Lord for those decisions.

So ultimately I think, we move forward, worshipping God stretching out our hand to all around us, knowing that there will be those that will accept it and those that will despise it.
I agree, John, that laying down more rules doesn't really prove to be very effective overall if the committment isn't there.

I can't think of a specific scripture verse that talks about only working with the ones God has given you, but some examples come to mind.
1) Jesus prays in John 17:24 "Father, I want these whom you have given me to be with me where I am." These "given ones" were the very ones he poured his life into for three years.
2) When the disciples were sent out to preach, Jesus told them that if a town didn't accept them, then leave and shake the dust off their feet. A bit extreme, I know, but the principle is there.
3) In Luke 18, when the rich young rule backed away from following Jesus when he'd been told to sell all he had, Jesus no doubt felt sorry for him, but he didn't go running after him with Plan B.

Maybe some others here will know of other scriptures that relate.

With the younger believers, spiritual maturity may not be at a level sufficient to see these to fruition.
This is where the need for grace to be administered comes into play, and where I need input on how to admonish, teach and mentor them.

I agree with you here. We must be gentle and encouraging, especially with those young in the faith or young in years. As long as someone is growing in their faith and abilities, and actively working at it, I'll take the time to pour into them whatever I can. Where they are at doesn't matter so much as where they are going. It's the ones who don't care, who think only of themselves that I back away from. I don't reject them; I just have to decide not to expend all my energy in that direction, because wisdom dictates otherwise. I'm human too, and can only do so much!

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