Some old..(I mean aged Christians like my grandma and my Dad)..said that listening to Rock Christian songs is not even a song for god because of its loud noisy type of music...But If you ask me..It's not about the loud music..It's about your way of expressing your love to the father using this kind of music..What are your thoughts on that brothers and sisters...

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It would be presumptuous and missing the mark of ministry to assume that only certain styles, grooves, etc. of worship music have the chops to soothe a weary heart or speak life into a lost and hungry soul. My husband loves a number of 80's Christian rock artists and can worship to them all day long. However, their music isn't my cup of tea, but I love their message. I'd never discount that they are offering praises to our heavenly Daddy! I say go for it with all styles. You never know what seed will be planted in otherwise dry soul. You don't know which style of worship that guy sitting out at the street corner, looking so lost and unapproachable, will soften his heart for Jesus. Will it be classical, rock, pop, metal, IHOP, hymns... ? Flow with the passion the Holy Spirit put into your blood. Flow with what moves you and calls you into a deeper worship and intimacy with Him. Rhema transpires through music, as well. If you look at the lyrics and discard the rest, they're all pretty much a love song to Jesus, anyway. Try showing your grandma and Dad some lyrics only, and ask what they think. Have a good and fruitful discussion. Then play the actual song. See where it goes. :-)
Matt, I love that answer!

The Bible is full of loud and noisy worship - we've all read the passages in Psalms that talk about praising God with loud crashing cymbals. So volumne levels is a non-issue, except where we get into topics of health and safety - I don't think the Lord looks on going deaf as taking care of our bodies, which are the temple of the Holy Spirit!

I tend to look at music as amoral, which means it doesn't within itself have a sense of being good or bad - it's what you do with it that counts. Write rock songs that celebrate anarchy or immoral behavior, then it's being used in an immoral sense. Write a rock song that expresses your love and obediance to God, the creator of all things including music, then it's being used for good.

By the way, not all rock songs are loud or noisy. There are some great rock ballads out there. Rock music is much more than that, but that's for another discussion.

Remember what the apostle Paul said: All things are lawful, but not all things are expediant. Nothing wrong with rock music per se; just use it appropriately (meaning, match your music to your audience when you're playing in public).
I believe that Rock music is great. Especially with bands like, Van Halen, Jethro Tull, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, are some of my favorites. But, I think there needs to be a separation between church and Rock. I think "Christian" rock is okay, but I don't like the concept of Rock Worship. I have a hard time with Worship and getting into it when I see someone go up there and try to play for the people, or like a performance. Whereas your playing to God, and he will take care of the rest.

I have struggled with this problem. Especially because once a year in our city all the churches put together a show at the local music hall. It is a sense of community, and worship. There are two Worship Teams, that provide music, ours and another church, that is I feel "Wannabe Rock Stars." And I felt my self criticizing them, but taking it to far, which is also not in the proper means of Worship. I found myself at the end when our two Worship Teams joined together, even having two drummers, thinking of it as a drum battle, which I think is wrong.

But, all together, I think if there is a difference between the worship, and the rock music, I have no problem with it. Especially cutting out the Guitar kicks, head bangs, solos, and other such things.
I love rock and metal music and grew up learning to play that style on guitar in my teens. If I'm honest, I prefer listening to the secular rock bands rather than the Christian ones, just because they make a better sound, and there's more of them that make any inroads in the music industry for me to be aware of and there are some brilliant songs out there. Obviously you have to discern lyrical content. Some is not great for the Christian spirit within us.

But saying that, listening to that style of music has greatly influenced how I play, and I bring that rock style guitar into our worship band. It's not about performance, it's about using the musical gift God has given me to utilize leading others in worship to Him. It doesn't sound dark, in fact it can be atmospheric, loud, soft and gentle, powerful, funky, etc. My worship leaders are greatful for the dynamic range I can bring to the band playing the way I do.

I don't think there's anything wrong in musicians being virtuous with their instruments either - I believe God wants us to give our best using the abilities he has given us. So long as you go with the flow of the Spirit, there's nothing wrong with that. If you're looking to please the people in the congregation with technical riffs and guitar solos, you're in the wrong band - go and join a pub band or something for that stuff!

To me there's no distinction what ever style we worship in. Worship is worship whatever the musical style and that's all that matters. Obviously it's a matter of taste as to what style people like, and whether or not it is a help or hindrance to that person's own worship, but ultimately it would be great if we could all encounter God in worship whatever, where ever, whenever (24/7).
Sure we are, it's ok to call ourselves worship leaders. There's nothing unbiblical about that.
Yep - looks like a good article, I've browsed through it. It's a pretty good display of the principles that are being explored today regarding worship in general. Where does it say that Jesus is the worship leader? I was looking for this concept and couldn't quite nail it down.
Got it. I don't have that one.
Interesting point you make about solos - I think the difference is in soloists who are concerned about "the song" and those who are trying to demonstrate their abilities. David Gilmour comes to mind as one who never solos just to solo. It's always meant to be a part of the song and reinforce it. I would think that kind of solo is usually appropriate in a worship setting.
Jethro Tull! Yes!

If what your saying is "there's worship" and "there's entertainment", I agree. No need for hot dog guitar solos and head banging on Sunday morning.
By the way, I love upbeat Worship Music. I just mean like using MxPx as worship.
Yeah, I'm right in there with you guys. I grew-up as a Speed-Metal kid, and I know every Metallica song there was. Although I do use some of the tricks I learned from James Hetfield (palm-muting anyone?) I don't go up on Sunday morning and play 'Battery' with Christian lyrics. I have grown to LOVE contemporary praise and worship music!!


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