To get started, I totally know and respect the reason for the season. I deliberated for a few days about starting a 'gifts' thread on this forum... but I think we should celebrate the thoughful items we received this year, so hear goes!

My lovely wife got me a very nice surprise. When we saw the Acoustasonic Tele at the NAMM show in Anaheim last year, I knew I had found an instrument that would allow me to take my worship leading to a new level. I am not, however, the type of person who just runs around buying new stuff. I research the options and deliberate for months and months before making a purchase like this.

It's been a year since the NAMM show, (in January) and I now have the guitar I've been dreaming of! This means that I will not need to worry about bringing two guitars on Sunday, and wiring everything through an A/B switch and all that (to make it easier on the sound person). I can have the acoustic and electric sounds I need/want right at my fingertips and ready to go! I will talk to the soundperson about running two channels (so that I can run the acoustic and electric at the same time) on the board (we've got plenty of channels to spare) I am so very stoked!

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That's kind of funny. I've always liked my Acousticaster plugged-in live.

 

http://www.godinguitars.com/godinacousticaster.htm

 

Seems like pretty simliar guitar now, especially when a lot of people were moding it before the A6-Ultra was available with a neck PU. I've always toyed with putting a Fishman Powerbridge in one of teles, but I have to say I like the LR Baggs a lot more. I've had a lot more like with the multi-pole LR Baggs vs. the Fishman strip/under saddle pickups (that I have on my other guitars).

 

What's funny is that I think Godin got it's start making replacement necks for Fender. My first-run Acoustiscaster still has a sticker that says "Tele (6)" on the back of the head-stock. Probably aluding to the tele-shape and six in-line tuners. The body shape is almost bang-on tele too, with chambers. It's like Fender went back and copied Godin. Interesting... (What's old is new I guess...)

So do you get the acoustic sounds straight from this one, or do you go through an acoustic processor as well?
It has a Fishman Piezo pickup and an Aura Ic unit. fishman takes a classic acoustic sound and put it into the unit, so this one has four options on it. Volume and tone on the unit help to dial in the sound, but no other processors are needed.

Hi Jon.

Sounds like you really scored musically! Nice! I still like to have at least two guitars on the stage for worship as if a string breaks I can just keep going on the spare. My big score this year has been a T.C.Electronics Nova System. I thought I was done with multi effects processors as I've had several digitechs priced from 120.00 to 350.00 and both have basically been a musical disappointment of course they both are digital, the Nova System is analog and weight a ton but the sounds are heavenly! Blessings! Jimbo

Wayne,

 

I looked at the Godin's (being Canadian, they were one of my first looks into this type of instrument!) but the Tele just really spoke to me when I saw it at the NAMM show. 

 

In truth, I'm not a fan of Tele's or Fenders, really. I am a tune-0-matic guy. Love my Les Paul to death. As for adding an acoustic pickup, after researching it all, I'd say that the Graptech Ghost pickup is the best there is. I may still add one to my LP.. It has been getting the best reviews and I absolutely love the feel of my paul. The thought of the synth controller aspect of the ghost is appealing, too.

 

I cannot wait to get the tele plugged in and really unleash the capabilities of this bad boy! The possibilities are already swimming in my head!

I'm trying to come up with a solution that involves one pure electric and the right amount of "processing" to simulate an acoustic like a Boss AC3 or something.
I've never been happy with sims. They sound like sims. I highly recommend the Ghost, and they make them for Gibson or Fender style bridges. Graph Tech makes a great product!

A piezo bridge always sounds like a piezo bridge, even when it's on a true acoustic. Running it through an acoustic modeller (Fishman make an excellent one, but it's very expensive) will make it sound more like an acoustic again.

 

Stevo - Behringer do a budget acoustic modelling pedal that's a Boss clone - kind of works with a strat, but forget about humbuckers.

So I don't mind if it sounds like a Piezo - I'm playing my beautiful sounding Taylor through a Fishman blender and I'm sure the quality of the sound isn't evident to the audience. I could just as well be playing a Takamine or a Martin.

 

If the Behringer won't work with humbuckers, will the Boss? I was thinking of a Gretsch with TV-Jones.

For me the sound is culmination of a lot of things. It's not just the Pups. My Michael Kelly had acoustic strings, which makes it sound acoustic-y. A electrical with nickel 10's with sound and play more like an electric. So an add-in Piezo to me isn't all-in-one solution.

 

Maybe it's just me. It's why I never pulled the trigger on the Line6 Variax (even though I already have the PODXT Live). So much goes into a guitar. It's not just sound, it's the play and the feel too. You can really rip on an acoustic without it going haywire. On an electric, over-playing just gives you a mess. The energy and power comes from the effects and overdriving it.

 

Even with some kind of Ocataver/Pitch-Shifter, I'd never try to play bass on my electric...

Interesting how this conversation has gone.

Wayne - I find that hitting either instrument (acoustic or electric) too hard reduces the musical aspects of tone, but you just need to hit acoustic a little harder. I used to break Gibson heavy picks on acoustic doing open air work. ;-)

 

However I don't find effects or overdrive add any power to electric at all - they can only build on the basic instrument tone. I note you're using a POD, and that may well be why we perceive things differently. If you can use it effectively then it may be that you have to do different things to someone using a non-modeling set up - when I tried modelers a while back I certainly found that they took all the strength and dynamics out of my sound, even compared to a fairly heavily processed set up that I'd used before. 

 

It can be quite hard to find an amp/guitar combination that's truly effective together with your natural playing style, probably even more so if you've had to adapt your playing and ear to the tone-mangling of line 6 kit.

 

Stringwise, I'm finding the biggest difference is made when the guitar is EQd, and less difference between electric and acoustic strings on an acoustic guitar. In fact electric strings seem to work better for that ching-ching rhythm acoustic tone that you hear on so many worship recordings. I'm not at all a fan of acoustic guitar tone anyway, so the loss of a little (unpleasant) tone in favour of making the thing a bit more playable is a very worthwhile trade off.

 

As for bass on electric, I've heard some great sounds from electric using an MXR pedal, but it bypasses all the tactility of bass playing on the 'right' instrument. For me, playing bass is great because it's so physical compared to electric, and those huge strings make it much more hands on.

>> but you just need to hit acoustic a little harder

 

Hm.. But that's my point. Just because you flick a switch, doesn't mean you have an acoustic in your hands. My playing style differs greatly on Acoustic vs. Electric. I'm pretty heavy handed with my acoustics, with a very precussive style.

 

On Electrics, I try to let the guitar do the work. The string gauge and tension play a huge role in this. Playing too hard on an electric happens easier and can alter the pitch even since the strings are under far less tension. Less give, different bridge, etc. (Try string bending on the lower strings of a acoustic running Blue Steels!)

 

It's probably the musical influences I have too. Bands like Nickelback and Linkin Park are masters of the lulling you to sleep in the verse and then waking you up with power-stroking chrous with lots of heavy effects. I can definitely get a lot of volume and tone changes from the modeller, but I've done this with pedals and dirty/clean channels. The more complex modellers just give me more tools, where I can go from preset to preset.

 

When I was younger, looking back I definitely think I "over-played" my electric. It wasn't till I figured out/shown that with electric, you let the guitar do the work for you my tone got a lot better.

 

A single down stroke on an acoustic (without heavy alteration) does not provide the same effect.

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